Episode 1 – Amina’s Transformation Journey – From Trauma to Freedom
Welcome to a podcast that challenges, inspires, and opens doors to deeper layers of who you truly are.
In The Journey to Self-Realization – A Prmordial Shamanic Journey Back to Your True Nature, you are invited on an authentic and raw developmental journey – a deeply transformative voyage that calls for courage, honesty, and an unwavering longing for freedom. This is not just a spiritual podcast – it is a living, personal, and insightful exploration of what happens when a person truly takes responsibility for their own development and begins to awaken to their authentic self.
🎙️ In the first episode, we meet Amina – a woman who has gone through one of the most gripping and courageous soul journeys we have ever encountered. From a life marked by violence, trauma, existential fear, and intense identity crises, she has, through primordial shamanic practice and guidance at Yggdrasil Shamanic School, found her way back to her inner light and deepest power. Her journey is both harrowing and beautiful – full of insights, breakthroughs, and above all – hope.
Throughout the conversation between Amina and Pål-Esben Wanvig, her teacher and guide, layer upon layer of human experience is revealed:
🌿 A childhood shaped by fear and darkness
🌿 Encounters with alternative communities and esoteric chaos
🌿 Near-death experiences and spiritual breakthroughs
🌿 Healing of trauma and overcoming self-imposed limitations
🌿 The inner journey from being trapped in fear — to living with peace and meaning
At the heart of the episode lies the question:
How can we free ourselves from deeply rooted belief systems that keep us locked in suffering? And what happens when we choose to meet our inner darkness with love and curiosity — instead of fear and denial?
🪶 Amina shares courageously how, through shamanic development, she was able to release the diagnosis of borderline personality disorder — after just six months of intensive inner work. This is not a miracle tale, but a powerful testimony to what becomes possible when we dare to go all the way into our inner landscape and meet ourselves without masks.
👁️ The episode also sheds light on essential themes such as:
✨ The illusion of demons and evil within the esoteric world
✨ The importance of the Path of the Heart and true self-responsibility
✨ The spiritual misunderstanding of “protection against negative energy”
✨ Why genuine transformation never happens through quick fixes
✨ How to reclaim your own authority and take back the power over your life
🎧 This podcast is for you who:
– Seeks real depth in your spiritual practice
– Wants to understand yourself on a more fundamental level
– Is curious about shamanism but tired of superficial “new age” spirituality
– Has taken many alternative courses but still feels that something is missing
– Feels an inner longing for freedom, love, and wholeness
🧭 In a time where many get lost in external methods and promises of fast solutions, this podcast invites you back to the only place where true answers can be found: your own heart.
This is the first chapter in a series of episodes where you will follow Amina in conversations filled with honesty, wisdom, humor, and unfiltered life force. Through their experiences, you will gain insight into how the Primordial Shamanic path of development works in practice — not as a concept, but as a lived reality.
Episode 1 – Transcription
Pål-Esben:
Hi Amina, and a heartfelt welcome!
Amina:
Thank you so much! Hi there!
Pål-Esben:
Are you excited?
Amina:
Very much. This is exciting.
Pål-Esben:
And we’re going to take a fantastic journey together. We’re going to bring the listener along on the fantastic journey you’ve been through over the past 18 months.
I looked through my emails. The first time you sent me an email was at the end of November 2022. And at the beginning of December, you started the Yggdrasil Shamanic School Basic Training. That’s when things began to happen.
Throughout these 18 months, you’ve experienced quite exceptional things. You started from a place that was very difficult — with lots of challenges, traumas, fear. And you’ve gone through an extensive development process.
You’ve even become a teacher. Right now, as we’re recording this, you’ve started your first group og studetns in the Yggdrasil Shamanic School Basic Training — to guide other people through the same unique development process you’ve been through.
We’ve just come from a retreat in the mountains in Norway, where you also had your first experiences og Unity — glimpses of what we call spiritual enlightenment.
So 18 months have been quite intense, Amina.
Amina:
It has been quite intense. What a transformation journey.
How It All Started
Pål-Esben:
Can you tell us a bit about how it all started?
Amina:
Yes. And the question is: Where does one begin?
I was at an alternative fair in Tønsberg and had a stand there. I noticed some shamans doing healing work, and I asked where they had trained. That’s when I heard about you.
Then, on my way home from the fair, something quite special happened. It might sound a bit brutal, but I hit a deer with my car.
Since I got my driver’s license at 23, I’ve always been afraid of hitting animals. It was a very big fear. I didn’t know what I would do in a situation where I see an animal suffering or dying.
But for me, this became a profound shamanic experience. What happened was that I sat there with that animal during its death transition. I gave it healing. I wasn’t afraid — I was just present.
For me, this experience was a significant sign regarding what I was about to embark on.
When I came home and had processed it, I contacted you and asked when you would start the shamanic basic training. We had a conversation, and I started pretty soon after that.
A Turbulent Background
Amina:
But the years before this had been extremely turbulent.
I had a very unstable upbringing with a lot of physical violence, psychological violence, unpredictability, a lot of fear, and religious influence. I struggled a lot with identity, so I turned to Islam when I was 13, and then Christianity.
I had a stepfather who liked to scare me. So I was marked by this darkness quite early. I didn’t have much contact with my father.
I developed borderline personality disorder, which is extremely difficult to live with.
I had children quite young. When I was 18, I became pregnant, and my goal in life was to become an Arab housewife. I achieved that. But I quickly realized that wasn’t the goal — so there was a small crisis there.
Then I started questioning religion and began to drift away from it. But I was still in some turbulent years with violent partners. A lot of destructiveness, basically.
Then I got some help from the public system to understand myself better — behavioral management related to borderline personality disorder.
But it was when I started training with you, and began receiving guidance from you, that the real breakthroughs came. One thing was all the things I learned between our conversations, which I could bring into our sessions for guidance and understanding.
Six months after I started at Yggdrasil Shamanic School, I actually lost the borderline personality disorder diagnosis. That’s quite significant in itself.
Amina:
It’s quite significant to get out of that, I would say.
But I would perhaps say that one of the bigger challenges when I started with you was that I was stuck in an esoteric chaos. I had gotten tangled up in thoughts like: “We’re not really human, and we’re not really supposed to be here. Should I really be here? If I am everything, why am I that?”
Learning a lot of different things — spiritual things, esoteric things from various sources — it created a huge chaos in me. So I remember that I needed your help to get grounded.
Pål-Esben:
Yes, there was a need for sorting.
You do have quite a harsh background regarding what you experienced. Of course, this is just a mild introduction to something that’s actually very traumatic.
When you say your stepfather liked to scare you, there’s a quite traumatic experience behind that — something that traumatizes a child beyond measure.
It’s no wonder one ends up afraid of the dark and afraid of evil, the devil, and all these things, when you carry such conditioning from childhood — which no child should ever be near.
So you had baggage with you into adult life that was challenging and difficult, and that of course affected your life.
Can you tell us a bit about what your life was like at that time — before we met? What was a typical day like for Amina?
The Turning Point
Amina:
I think it was about six months before. I was in a quite destructive relationship, on and off for about a year.
About six months before I entered the training with you, I experienced my boyfriend at the time strangling me. I was supposed to die.
I realized I couldn’t fight anymore. So I surrendered to death.
I obviously didn’t die. But for me, it was a very important experience. It might sound a bit strange, but so much happened inside me on a deeper level than I had ever experienced before.
This experience made me start seeking more into the spiritual, the sacred. I felt a greater calling. But I couldn’t quite put my finger on what and where.
So I participated in various women’s circles, moon circles. I also went to an ayahuasca retreat, where quite a lot of trauma was stirred up. I don’t think that was very wise, but some people do this in their search — who start to sense that there’s something more here, but don’t quite know what.
You hear about these things and try them, because you don’t have the right type of guidance. It can make you get stuck. For me, it actually became more chaos.
A Shared Experience
Pål-Esben:
I understand. It was the same for me when I ventured into the esoteric many years ago — more than twenty years ago.
I don’t come from the chaos you come from. But I come from an academic with blinders on — where you think you know everything and actually know nothing. Arrogant, almighty complex, the whole package.
All this alternative stuff was nonsense, I thought. And I was even a bit scared of these shaman things — with costumes, drums and spooky people. I didn’t want anything to do with it at all.
What do you do then, when you have no knowledge of the alternative and esoteric? Well, you have to start trying.
I went to several places in the world to find teachers. I learned everything from Reiki to various forms of meditation and healing. Then there was drumming and shamanism. I tried a lot of different things.
I was completely overwhelmed. And the problem, in my case, was an extensive burnout and really problematic health issues. Nothing got better.
And you go from one thing to another, hoping that “there’s the solution, there’s the solution, there’s the solution.” Then you reach a point where you’re very stressed and maybe a bit frustrated.
Why doesn’t what I’m learning give real results that are objective — where my life actually gets better?
I remember when I was at my first angel seminar over twenty years ago. Very exciting and very curious. I didn’t believe in it, but it was very exciting to be introduced to angels and healing with angels.
It was a fantastic experience. I met fantastic people. But then you come home and start talking to angels — and nothing really happens.
It’s nice. But nothing happens with my health. Nothing happens with my depression. Nothing happens with my frustration. Nothing — except that you’ve learned something exciting.
It was challenging for me in the beginning — navigating a landscape that was completely uncharted. I jumped from seminar to seminar, hoping I would find someone who could help me.
And you had more or less the same experience?
The Importance of a Development Process
Amina:
Yes. And that’s where I see the importance of a development process, as you’ve talked about.
I definitely don’t think I would have had the same results I have today if this shamanic development path had taken place over a month and a half.
I see the importance of this process — of trying and failing, of learning through new insights. This wisdom that gets to unfold.
My partner asked me the other day. I woke up in the night feeling a bit unwell — had pain in my body. And he said: “Are you feeling bad, or are you feeling good?”
And I said: “I feel very good, but it just doesn’t feel that way.”
He said: “So you mean intellectually you know you’re fine, but your body isn’t quite well?”
And I said: “No, it’s not quite like that either. For me, I feel that I’m deeply well — even if I might be sick, or have pain somewhere, or have an uncomfortable night.”
And I think that if I can achieve that, then other people can too. Because life will keep happening.
I think many people are looking for the thing that will make no negative or difficult things in life happen. I believed that too at one point.
But I read a quote the other day that struck me: “It’s not about feeling better, but becoming better at feeling.”
Surface versus Depth
Pål-Esben:
Yes, exactly. What is really the difference between what we did in the beginning — and what most people do? Where you’re searching, taking a workshop here and an evening seminar there, versus going into a deep development process?
These are two completely different things.
First of all: A development process isn’t done in a weekend or in a month and a half. It’s something that is a continuous process toward a specific direction.
You can learn many methods and techniques that are exciting. But methods and techniques will only touch the surface of things.
If we’re going to go deep, we also have to go into our own personality. We have to clear up things that hinder us — for example, from setting our heart free.
The things that make us filled with resentment, frustration, and anxiety.
It’s perhaps one of the hardest things a human being goes through — what we call finding the path of the heart. Because you encounter harsh things in yourself.
These are harsh things controlled by the first chakra, the brain stem, the amygdala, our genetics. When anxiety feelings come up, they feel uncontrollable. It often leads to certain types of behavior — being a bit harsh with your kids, getting irritated when someone says something we don’t like, going into fight or flight mode.
You live in what I call the hamster wheel — where the primate in us is the one running things almost on autopilot.
Learning a method or technique doesn’t help much there — or a hundred methods and techniques. You can learn so much about angels, shamanism, astrology, and so on. It can dampen things, but the fundamental things that lie deep within us, and that control much of our lives on autopilot — that requires a completely different approach to resolve.
For that, you need a development process with a guide or teacher. Which means things can be uncomfortable at times.
When you’re at a seminar learning about angels or astrology — it’s pleasant. Lots of exciting things. But you’re never confronted with your real, deep shadow sides.
If that were raised at a seminar, things would go crazy.
But a person cannot set themselves free — based on my experience. You cannot become a fundamentally happy and content person, finding meaning in what happens in daily life, whatever it may be — without going in and processing this.
It’s close to impossible to do entirely yourself. Since we’re governed by fear, ignorance, and the almighty syndrome, we’re subjective to ourselves.
What was the most uncomfortable thing you experienced in the beginning with me? Tell us a bit about that — where you maybe got a bit irritated with me.
Trust and Challenges
Amina:
There are several things that have been brought up in me through this process. The word “education” is really a poor word for it, because it goes so much deeper than that.
I’ve really been tested several times.
The most important thing for me, when I’ve been triggered by things you’ve said or a type of behavior where I’ve felt that a transference or projection wanted to come up — it was the trust I have in you.
That I trust you. That I know that whatever you say or do, it comes from a good place. I’ve also gotten to experience that.
I’m a person who can often see when something uncomfortable comes up toward another person, and realize that “there’s something here — this isn’t about that person, this is about me.”
You’re quite direct sometimes. So in the beginning, it shook me a bit, because I have experience with quite assertive men — very aggressive, manipulative men.
You’re absolutely not manipulative. But I’ve felt that “here’s someone who has a strength, a steadiness, a good character.” Those energies have perhaps reminded me of previous men in my life.
It’s been a bit challenging perhaps. But I’ve also learned a lot from it — that you can actually have a yang energy, have a flame, have a backbone, have steadiness. Be a man with a capital M without it being negative.
There’s a lot of love behind it too.
Facing the Darkness
Pål-Esben:
This is difficult. You wrap it up nicely, but it’s not always that simple.
In a deep development process, it’s the teacher’s or guide’s job to show you what’s blocking you. And that’s not always pleasant for the ego — which wants to be right, and which wants everything to be pleasant, with energy, light, and love.
Suddenly you meet yourself — that you have a almighty syndrome, or that you maybe don’t treat people around you in a loving way.
One of the things that shook your tree in the beginning — and which I remember very well — was when we started talking about evil and demons.
Amina:
Yes, that’s correct.
Pål-Esben:
Because that was difficult. Things came up where you didn’t quite agree with me in the beginning.
Can you tell us a bit about why you had this deep belief in evil and demons — and how it connected to your past?
Amina:
Yes. It’s something I thought I had put on a good shelf when I entered the alternative community — this stuff about negative energies, demons, that someone can come and do something to us.
When I was around seven years old, I moved to America with my mom. She had met a man there, and he liked to scare me.
He would put on scary movies, especially demon films like The Exorcist — where a girl gets a demon inside her and there’s an exorcism. Then he would lock me in a dark room afterward. He would put on masks and come out and scare me.
This went on continuously for a year. He had conversations with me where he talked about how if I wasn’t a good girl, I would go to hell.
I was extremely scared that year. I slept alone in a room, in a completely new country where everything was new. So that year I built up a lot of fear.
When I came back to Norway after about a year — I was sent on the plane alone — I didn’t dare sleep with the light off. The first time I did that was maybe two years ago.
Throughout my entire childhood, I was afraid that something in the darkness would come and take me.
I also later went into religions — first Christianity, then Islam which I was in for about ten years — where it was also a lot about how the devil could come into us, make us do stupid things, and this stuff about heaven and hell.
When I went into spirituality again — which was supposed to be a liberation process — I was met with a lot of this stuff about negative energies. It was as simple as: “If you sleep with that person, you get all that person’s energies inside you, and they’ll be inside you for nine months.”
“So if you do something stupid, it’s not really your fault — it’s these energies’ fault. Then we have to cleanse ourselves.”
When I started the training, one of the first things I encountered was fear. I saw uncomfortable beings in my mind’s eye.
Then we had conversations about this, where you said: “No, demons don’t exist.”
Then I said: “But this and that — if angels exist, demons must exist too.”
I had also had a hypnosis session before I started with you, where a “demon” came out that was sitting in the first chakra — the demon from when I was seven years old. It spoke and had its own identity.
But something I understand now in hindsight is that these “beings” represent something completely different — various parts we have within ourselves.
I struggled with it. The reason was that on one hand, I trusted your knowledge and experience a lot. On the other hand, I experienced something different — so I had to look at this with new eyes.
Through the training, you’ve taught us what happens in the subconscious — these programs we have, how the intellect and our identity control our experience of reality.
When I went through this, I thought: “Okay, maybe I have a deep belief system.”
And when I acknowledged that and got new experiences with this darkness, I experienced that it started to change. It didn’t completely disappear at once, but it started to change.
I saw that when I acquire new knowledge and believe in it, something in me expands.
The most important thing I’ve learned — and which I’m very grateful for — is that darkness is not dangerous. It’s actually fantastic. It’s wonderful.
The Truth About Darkness
Pål-Esben:
I experience this very often with people who come to me — that they have a fundamental fear based on a belief system. It can be part of the culture you live in.
You’ve been told that external sources cause your problems. And these external sources — especially in the esoteric — can be anything from karma to evil spirits, demons, or people casting negative energy at you.
You become very fixated on external sources causing your problems. And that’s a big, big misunderstanding.
It leads people into a hamster wheel where they believe external sources are the cause. You have no power over them — except that you should learn to protect yourself.
And that’s one of the most well-known areas in the esoteric: You’re offered protection. Everything from special methods, energy spheres — everything that’s supposed to protect against evil, against what’s trying to get at you.
It’s a big problem. Because protection will never lead to any solution. It only leads to you becoming weaker and weaker.
We see this through what’s called the “cleanliness syndrome”: Children who grow up in a sterile home, without bacteria, get a very weak immune system as adults. While children who grow up on a farm — where it’s impossible to keep it sterile — have a much stronger immune system.
When you have this idea that you should protect yourself from everything, your energy system and all systems become weak. It makes things worse.
My experience through all these years is that it’s definitely not like that.
I’ve worked actively with the metaphysical through shamanism for so many years. I’ve never encountered evil there. Never met a devil or demon or bad energies that were going to come and get me.
But I have met people who have evil in them — who try to destroy other people.
Evil exists only in humans. There are no other beings that we have contact with in our biosphere that have evil. But humanity — that’s where you find the wickedness and evil.
The key is not to protect yourself from darkness. The key is to light the light within yourself. For where the light is, darkness cannot exist. That’s the only thing you need to learn.
What you feel — when you feel you have a demon inside you — that’s real as a feeling. You feel that something evil is entering you, maybe with a voice.
But what is it really? Well, it’s suppressed sides in ourselves. Suppressed parts of our personality — sub-personalities that have been split off or suppressed through a traumatic event or conditioning.
It’s parts of ourselves that have been split off through trauma, which we’ve unconsciously distanced ourselves from — and which create conflicts.
Hell is one of the most brilliant inventions. With it, religious powers have controlled most of the world to believe in their dogma — because people are so afraid of going to hell.
Well, hell obviously doesn’t exist. But you can create your own hell. That’s entirely possible — through suffering.
In your case, we worked for two to three months on this. We identified where the fear came from, looked at your conditioning, and tried to see it in a slightly different way.
Instead of blaming external forces for creating problems, we went inside yourself and tried to awaken the light within you. That has been our way of doing it — which has more or less set you completely free from this darkness.
Today you are master of yourself. You’ve taken your power back. You’re not afraid of boogiemen out there. And you’ve noticed that there’s no need for any protection — because it’s about lighting the inner light.
Through Darkness to Light
Amina:
There have been sleepless nights over several months. Anxiety.
What scared me most was that these “demons” and darker parts became more and more visible the more I worked with it. It was a bit like: “Why should I continue with this?”
But I realized that we don’t actually get past our stuff until we face the depth of it. Whether it’s “demons” and darkness, or destructive personality traits or values within ourselves. You have to really face it.
You didn’t just tell me that “demons don’t exist, it’s just nonsense.” You really explained why — in a much more profound way. You went through what happens inside a person, the logical reasons why it doesn’t exist, and logical reasons why I believed it.
I’m very grateful for all the difficult things I’ve gone through. Because it also enables me to help other people through the same.
I’ve been met by both clients and students who feel these things — who are in the early stages of facing darker parts of themselves. I can recognize where they are, and I see that they need to realize things themselves and go their own way.
But I also see that there are aha moments in what they learn through Yggdrasil Shamanic School.
Some clients have had difficulty acknowledging that they don’t have a demon inside them. It’s so easy to blame something else: “That part of me isn’t really me — it’s a demon I have to cleanse out once a week, maybe twice.”
How long are you going to keep cleansing it out then?
Pål-Esben:
Good business, right? Those who cleanse out demons have good business.
But that’s not how reality is. And that’s the challenge.
We live in a world that is very fear-driven — driven by fear and anxiety. It’s part of being human. But in the world we live in now, there’s so much fear and anxiety.
Those who beat the anxiety drum easily gather people: “Come to me and learn to protect yourself.”
But there’s a difference between that versus finding solutions to suffering.
Because ultimately it’s about a development process to set ourselves free. So that we don’t have fear, anxiety, and insecurity at the core. So that we can feel our heart bubbling on a daily basis. So that we can feel joy throughout everyday life. So that we are fundamentally happy people who live and experience meaning in our daily lives.
That’s what this is about — a deep, authentic personal development process. And it’s absolutely necessary if you’re going to go through a profound primordial shamanic development process.
Because if you’re full of hatred, resentment, and anxiety, none of these spectacular light beings want anything to do with you. They definitely don’t listen to someone who says: “Can you go and do something bad to that neighbor who did something to me?”
Humans are perhaps not exactly the most intelligent races in this universe. We try to control everything — even these fantastic light beings that are around us to help us.
But not one of them will help and support us as long as we’re governed by ego, fear, hatred, and control.
When you go through a profound primordial shamanic development process, it’s absolutely necessary to clear out these things.
The True Shamanic Death
Pål-Esben:
That’s what the true shamanic death is.
Not some extreme processes in a sweat lodge, or being put out half-naked in the forest to survive for a week or two. That has nothing to do with shamanic death.
Shamanic death is about putting the ego as the soul’s advisor — instead of it being the soul’s ruler.
Without going through a fundamental development process around these things in our lives, no profound shamanic development process can happen. Then you’re on the surface — learning a few techniques, methods, a bit of drumming, talking to angels or whatever.
That’s nice. There’s nothing wrong with it.
But it has nothing to do with the unique development process you’ve been through — and many before you — that totally changes a life. That revolutionizes how you live your life and experience your life.
That’s what this is about, in my eyes.
The Path of the Heart in Practice
Amina:
Yes, and it really is the path of the heart.
It’s a new thing I got to experience when I became acquainted with shamanism. Because “being in love” — I got to experience that on a superficial level before. Then everything was supposed to work out as long as you sat in love and felt into your heart.
But as you’ve talked about many times: What has practically changed in your life after you went into love?
To actually understand and experience that love is something practical. It’s not just sitting and thinking about your heart and that we are all one.
How do you live it out? I’ve really learned so much from that.
Pål-Esben:
It’s something very practical. I often hear people say: “Oh, love and everything is so great, you should be in love! You can’t say such things, you’re not in love.”
But I call a spade a spade.
It’s not about “being in love.” It’s about what we live out in our daily lives. That’s where the truth is shown about whether you’re in love or not.
How do you treat your children? How do you treat your partner? How do you treat your friends? How do you treat yourself? How do you treat the people around you?
It’s something very practical. You can see if a person is connected to their heart — not by whether they’ve been to an esoteric course and “been in the light and love.”
That’s why at Yggdrasil Shamanic School we have something called the nine pillars for finding the path of the heart.
We start with number one: Become a master of gratitude. Number two: Become a master of forgiveness. Number three: Become a master of self-regulation. And then we continue.
Very practical things that you need to learn to be able to follow your heart in daily life — even when you face resistance.
That has had great significance for you in this development process. Your relationship with the people around you has perhaps changed a bit?
Amina:
Very much.
What I see is that the world may not have changed, but I have changed. My filter — how I see the world and people — has changed.
I myself am responsible for my own life. It’s a bit scary at first for many people. But when you realize it, experience it, and see what it’s like to live it out — you get so much more power over yourself.
But I think it requires really daring to face those crappy parts in yourself.
To actually say: “I say I’m a kind person. I say I’m fair. I say I have these and these values. But did I just now? No, but I’d rather not admit it to myself.”
These are the parts we just want to push down again.
But I’ve experienced how important it is to notice all those parts of me that haven’t been about walking the path of the heart. Not to put myself down — that’s been very important to me throughout.
It’s not about beating myself with a whip, as you often refer to, but rather seeing it as an insight I can build on.
It takes a lot of courage for a person to look at everything that lives within them. Many of the attitudes we have — you can say “no, I don’t think like that” — but you actually do deep down. You know that if you express what you really believe and think, you’re a bit of a fool.
But those parts are there for a reason. And I think many people don’t quite understand why they’re there. We’re influenced by more — both DNA, genetics, and all of this — perhaps more than we often think and are aware of.
The Path to Liberation
Pål-Esben:
We’re part of our society. Part of how we’re raised. We’re all more or less shaped by the same things.
But then we come to a point where we say: “Maybe it’s time to step out of this limited way of living. Maybe it’s time to set myself free and see reality as it is.”
Instead of being in the famous hamster wheel — where most of my actions, thoughts, and feelings run on autopilot.
Maybe it’s time to become a conscious, enlightened person.
That’s my wish for you and your fellow students — to be able to guide you all the way to full liberation.
It’s called spiritual enlightenment and unity.
But for that to happen — for you to have full access to your timeless and spaceless nature, your complete nature, your unity nature — you must first clear away everything that lies around the heart. The behavioral mechanisms that are driven by fear.
Otherwise, you won’t be able to experience these things.
As long as our actions, thoughts, and feelings — both conscious and unconscious — are governed by society and its conditioning about power, control, higher-further-wider, anxiety and fear… the more we’re locked into the straitjacket that’s limited by time and space.
To break out of the straitjacket, we have to unravel the things that bind us into it — to be able to set ourselves free.
That’s logical to me at least. And it’s one of the side effects of going through an authentic, profound development process like you’re doing.
It’s not for those who are afraid of changing. It requires some courage. The hardest thing is to face the darkness in yourself — and acknowledge that it’s reality — and then start changing it.
For that, you have lots of exciting methods, techniques, and philosophy.
Conclusion
Pål-Esben:
When you see your process from an eagle’s perspective — and look down on yourself through these 18 months — what do you conclude today?
Amina:
What I can say in closing is that no matter how difficult life is, there is a way out of it.
I’ve really experienced that for every problem, there actually is a solution.
I really don’t believe it’s meant for us humans to walk around here suffering.
There is always a way out of difficult things. That is my experience, at least.
Pål-Esben:
Wise words, Amina.